Post by Taika of Narfell on Jan 6, 2007 5:32:43 GMT 1
What is poetry? What defines poetry? What makes a poem?
Is it rhyme? Is it rhythm? Is it the message? The lyrical language? The emotion? If the writer calls it poetry, does that make it poetry?
Here I will take a look at the different things that factor into our judgement of whether it is poetry or not.
So what is it that makes a poem?
Rhyme
We can all think of words that rhyme. Dog/fog isn't too hard to come up with, nor is house/mouse, standard rhymes that pretty much everyone can think of. "The tiny grey mouse/ lived in a house" is not poetry it's a rhyme - maybe even a children's rhyme. So rhyming alone is clearly not enough to make it poetry. So when can the rhymes themselves contribute to making the rhyme a poem?
The answer is simple: Don't be simple.
All those simple rhymes are children's rhymes, and if you only use those in a poem you'll find it difficult to move beyond the children's rhyme status. Using a few once in a while when they fit won't ruin anything, of course, but be clever. Cleverness when rhyming is always appreciated by the reader, because cleverness usually gets a positive reaction of some sort, be it an "Ohh", an "Ah hah!" or an "I see...".
Finding precise rhymes for long words can be difficult, but sometimes near-rhymes are good enough and perfectly allowable like exacerbate/to macerate. Anyone who reads Robert Frost's The Road Not Taken will see that rhymes such as these...
"I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."
... have taken far more thought and puzzling than rhymes like Backstreet Boys'...
"Quit playin' games with my heart
Before you tear us apart
Quit playin' games with my heart
I should've known from the start
You know you've gotta stop
You're tearin' us apart
Quit playin' games with my heart"
There is not doubt here as to what is poetry and what is merely a song with a rhyming refrain.
But are the rhymes really necessary? No of course they're not. Otherwise a poet like Walt Whitman would never have been a poet. Just consider his...
"A noiseless, patient spider,
I mark'd, where, on a little promontory, it stood, isolated;
Mark'd how, to explore the vacant, vast surrounding,
It launch'd forth filament, filament, filament, out of itself;
Ever unreeling them--ever tirelessly speeding them."
Nothing that even gets close to rhyming, but poetry nonetheless.
Rhythm
Does a poem need rhythm in order to be a poem? To answer that we need to define rhythm. Do we mean a steady rhythm that can be given an old Greek term for a name? Or do we mean an underlying rhythm beneath the word-flow?
In poetry we usually talk of an actual rhythm scheme, so let us stick to those so as not to confuse too many terms. Speaking of rhythm this way, we call it meter.
The classic iambic meter most people will have heard in Shakespeare's sonnets is very common in the English language. English is iambic in nature and most of what we write in terms of poetry will come out with a naturally iambic meter. Consider the lines...
"To me, fair friend, you never can be old,
For as you were when first your eye I eyed,
Such seems your beauty still. Three winters cold
Have from the forests shook three summers' pride,"
... from Shakespeare's 104th sonnet. Exemplary iambic meter all the way. But consider then these lyrics from the Icelandic singer Björk's Triumph of a Heart:
"Smooth soft red velvety lungs
Are pushing a network of oxygen joyfully
Through a nose, through a mouth
But all enjoys, which brings us to
The triumph of a heart that gives all"
There is no meter, no pre-determined rhythm and yet it is a song with a tune. Most if not all of her lyrics qualify as poetry but there is no rhythm other than what the music brings.
So we must conclude that rhythm isn't needed to make a poem either.
Message
So, is it the message that makes a poem a poem? Is it what the writer is trying to say that makes a poem what it is?
Let us consider what one might be saying in a poem.
"A bird came down the walk:
He did not know I saw;
He bit an angle-worm in halves
And ate the fellow, raw.
And then he drank a dew
From a convenient grass,
And then hopped sidewise to the wall
To let a beetle pass.
He glanced with rapid eyes
That hurried all abroad,--
They looked like frightened beads, I thought;
He stirred his velvet head
Like one in danger; cautious,
I offered him a crumb,
And he unrolled his feathers
And rowed him softer home
Than oars divide the ocean,
Too silver for a seam,
Or butterflies, off banks of noon,
Leap, splashless, as they swim. "
The above is Emily Dickinson's A Bird Came Down The Walk. A well-liked one of her pieces, and indeed there is wonderful imagery in it... but what is the message? It is certainly not plain as day what the message might be - if there is one. This one is not an easy poem to analyse, but can we truly consider the message an important part of poetry if we sometimes have to thoroughly analyse the poem in order to even have a clue as to what the message might be? Is this good writing-economics?
The message of a poem is not always easy to pin down and define - except maybe for the writer herself. But does there *have* to be a message? Consider Björk's complete lyrics to The Anchor Song:
"i live by the ocean
and during the night
i dive into it
down to the bottom
underneath all currents
and drop my anchor
and this is where i'm staying
this is my home"
There is no message here. It depicts a feeling, a state even, but not a message. And yet this is poetry. So clearly poetry doesn't need a message in order to be what it is. What then?
Emotion
As Harold Bloom once said: "Bad poetry is always honest" and this statement often pertains to emotion. There's a trend in modern society for writing poetry when you have feeling you want to let out. Many people do it, and they end up putting some very, very personal thoughts and feelings on paper (or on screen as the case may be). There is nothing wrong with this per se, but such emotional poetry holds a major weakness: the writers are reluctant to go back and edit it because they feel it is a violation of their feelings. This leaves much of this emotional poetry unedited, and while the emotion may be honest the poetry can very well still be crap - to be blunt.
For all poets it is important to realise these two basic concepts:
Emotions inspire poetry
Work creates it
However, do we need emotion to inspire poetry? Of course we don't. We can sit down with a clear goal in mind - like writing a poem about the apple's journey from blossom to pie and then just let our imagination work for us. It is a challenge and it gets us in the habit of writing for a reader. This leads me to the next point.
Language
What is language? Well, mine is Danish and English on here. But my language is also academic when I'm at university and lyrical when I'm writing poetry - perhaps even adjectival - and it can be derogatory when I'm angry. Language is a fluctuating entity that can take all sorts of shapes, and when writing poetry we make it take the shape we want it to - or at least that's what we *should* be doing. When writing poetry there is often a tendency to just let language flow because it feels right. But whether or not you're writing with rhymes, rhythm, messages or emotion it is your language that will take your poem from you to your reader. This makes language the only thing that is absolutely necessary for a poem.
And now you're thinking "Well, duh, you can't write without using your language" and no, indeed you cannot. But while we do use our language whenever we write something no matter the quality, this is not what I mean by putting your language to use. See, your *language* is what makes a text a poem. Your language and the way you choose your words is what makes a collection of images or emotions something that the reader will want to read and understand.
Everyone has emotions and I'm positive no one is interested in knowing what everyone feels at any given point in time. That's why we use our language to make the emotions interesting and worth reading about.
Everyone has experiences that they can tell a story about. But it is how they tell the story that makes it worth listening to.
So what makes a poem?
My conclusion must be that the only thing that truly makes a poem is the language. It is all in the telling. Whether it is an emotion, an experience or a message you want to share it is the langauge with which you share it that makes it poetry. Whether you choose to write rhymed verse or free verse, whether you choose to write Miltonic epics or Elizabethan sonnets it is the language that makes it worth the reader's while.
Let this be food for thought for all you poets out there. And let this thread be open for discussion of my above points as well as questions for clarification.
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In future instalments I shall cover:
Meter (iambic, trochaeic, spondaeic, etc)
Form (sestina, ballad, villanelle, etc)
Rhymes and Alliterations
How to edit your poetry
How to find inspiration
If you have wishes and ideas for other topics I might cover please let me know through PM
Is it rhyme? Is it rhythm? Is it the message? The lyrical language? The emotion? If the writer calls it poetry, does that make it poetry?
Here I will take a look at the different things that factor into our judgement of whether it is poetry or not.
So what is it that makes a poem?
Rhyme
We can all think of words that rhyme. Dog/fog isn't too hard to come up with, nor is house/mouse, standard rhymes that pretty much everyone can think of. "The tiny grey mouse/ lived in a house" is not poetry it's a rhyme - maybe even a children's rhyme. So rhyming alone is clearly not enough to make it poetry. So when can the rhymes themselves contribute to making the rhyme a poem?
The answer is simple: Don't be simple.
All those simple rhymes are children's rhymes, and if you only use those in a poem you'll find it difficult to move beyond the children's rhyme status. Using a few once in a while when they fit won't ruin anything, of course, but be clever. Cleverness when rhyming is always appreciated by the reader, because cleverness usually gets a positive reaction of some sort, be it an "Ohh", an "Ah hah!" or an "I see...".
Finding precise rhymes for long words can be difficult, but sometimes near-rhymes are good enough and perfectly allowable like exacerbate/to macerate. Anyone who reads Robert Frost's The Road Not Taken will see that rhymes such as these...
"I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."
... have taken far more thought and puzzling than rhymes like Backstreet Boys'...
"Quit playin' games with my heart
Before you tear us apart
Quit playin' games with my heart
I should've known from the start
You know you've gotta stop
You're tearin' us apart
Quit playin' games with my heart"
There is not doubt here as to what is poetry and what is merely a song with a rhyming refrain.
But are the rhymes really necessary? No of course they're not. Otherwise a poet like Walt Whitman would never have been a poet. Just consider his...
"A noiseless, patient spider,
I mark'd, where, on a little promontory, it stood, isolated;
Mark'd how, to explore the vacant, vast surrounding,
It launch'd forth filament, filament, filament, out of itself;
Ever unreeling them--ever tirelessly speeding them."
Nothing that even gets close to rhyming, but poetry nonetheless.
Rhythm
Does a poem need rhythm in order to be a poem? To answer that we need to define rhythm. Do we mean a steady rhythm that can be given an old Greek term for a name? Or do we mean an underlying rhythm beneath the word-flow?
In poetry we usually talk of an actual rhythm scheme, so let us stick to those so as not to confuse too many terms. Speaking of rhythm this way, we call it meter.
The classic iambic meter most people will have heard in Shakespeare's sonnets is very common in the English language. English is iambic in nature and most of what we write in terms of poetry will come out with a naturally iambic meter. Consider the lines...
"To me, fair friend, you never can be old,
For as you were when first your eye I eyed,
Such seems your beauty still. Three winters cold
Have from the forests shook three summers' pride,"
... from Shakespeare's 104th sonnet. Exemplary iambic meter all the way. But consider then these lyrics from the Icelandic singer Björk's Triumph of a Heart:
"Smooth soft red velvety lungs
Are pushing a network of oxygen joyfully
Through a nose, through a mouth
But all enjoys, which brings us to
The triumph of a heart that gives all"
There is no meter, no pre-determined rhythm and yet it is a song with a tune. Most if not all of her lyrics qualify as poetry but there is no rhythm other than what the music brings.
So we must conclude that rhythm isn't needed to make a poem either.
Message
So, is it the message that makes a poem a poem? Is it what the writer is trying to say that makes a poem what it is?
Let us consider what one might be saying in a poem.
"A bird came down the walk:
He did not know I saw;
He bit an angle-worm in halves
And ate the fellow, raw.
And then he drank a dew
From a convenient grass,
And then hopped sidewise to the wall
To let a beetle pass.
He glanced with rapid eyes
That hurried all abroad,--
They looked like frightened beads, I thought;
He stirred his velvet head
Like one in danger; cautious,
I offered him a crumb,
And he unrolled his feathers
And rowed him softer home
Than oars divide the ocean,
Too silver for a seam,
Or butterflies, off banks of noon,
Leap, splashless, as they swim. "
The above is Emily Dickinson's A Bird Came Down The Walk. A well-liked one of her pieces, and indeed there is wonderful imagery in it... but what is the message? It is certainly not plain as day what the message might be - if there is one. This one is not an easy poem to analyse, but can we truly consider the message an important part of poetry if we sometimes have to thoroughly analyse the poem in order to even have a clue as to what the message might be? Is this good writing-economics?
The message of a poem is not always easy to pin down and define - except maybe for the writer herself. But does there *have* to be a message? Consider Björk's complete lyrics to The Anchor Song:
"i live by the ocean
and during the night
i dive into it
down to the bottom
underneath all currents
and drop my anchor
and this is where i'm staying
this is my home"
There is no message here. It depicts a feeling, a state even, but not a message. And yet this is poetry. So clearly poetry doesn't need a message in order to be what it is. What then?
Emotion
As Harold Bloom once said: "Bad poetry is always honest" and this statement often pertains to emotion. There's a trend in modern society for writing poetry when you have feeling you want to let out. Many people do it, and they end up putting some very, very personal thoughts and feelings on paper (or on screen as the case may be). There is nothing wrong with this per se, but such emotional poetry holds a major weakness: the writers are reluctant to go back and edit it because they feel it is a violation of their feelings. This leaves much of this emotional poetry unedited, and while the emotion may be honest the poetry can very well still be crap - to be blunt.
For all poets it is important to realise these two basic concepts:
Emotions inspire poetry
Work creates it
However, do we need emotion to inspire poetry? Of course we don't. We can sit down with a clear goal in mind - like writing a poem about the apple's journey from blossom to pie and then just let our imagination work for us. It is a challenge and it gets us in the habit of writing for a reader. This leads me to the next point.
Language
What is language? Well, mine is Danish and English on here. But my language is also academic when I'm at university and lyrical when I'm writing poetry - perhaps even adjectival - and it can be derogatory when I'm angry. Language is a fluctuating entity that can take all sorts of shapes, and when writing poetry we make it take the shape we want it to - or at least that's what we *should* be doing. When writing poetry there is often a tendency to just let language flow because it feels right. But whether or not you're writing with rhymes, rhythm, messages or emotion it is your language that will take your poem from you to your reader. This makes language the only thing that is absolutely necessary for a poem.
And now you're thinking "Well, duh, you can't write without using your language" and no, indeed you cannot. But while we do use our language whenever we write something no matter the quality, this is not what I mean by putting your language to use. See, your *language* is what makes a text a poem. Your language and the way you choose your words is what makes a collection of images or emotions something that the reader will want to read and understand.
Everyone has emotions and I'm positive no one is interested in knowing what everyone feels at any given point in time. That's why we use our language to make the emotions interesting and worth reading about.
Everyone has experiences that they can tell a story about. But it is how they tell the story that makes it worth listening to.
So what makes a poem?
My conclusion must be that the only thing that truly makes a poem is the language. It is all in the telling. Whether it is an emotion, an experience or a message you want to share it is the langauge with which you share it that makes it poetry. Whether you choose to write rhymed verse or free verse, whether you choose to write Miltonic epics or Elizabethan sonnets it is the language that makes it worth the reader's while.
Let this be food for thought for all you poets out there. And let this thread be open for discussion of my above points as well as questions for clarification.
****************************
In future instalments I shall cover:
Meter (iambic, trochaeic, spondaeic, etc)
Form (sestina, ballad, villanelle, etc)
Rhymes and Alliterations
How to edit your poetry
How to find inspiration
If you have wishes and ideas for other topics I might cover please let me know through PM